Trading Populism Rather Than Common Sense by Farish A. Noor

Malaysians can guess that elections are around the corner when the stupid-o-meter goes off the scales and our national political discourse slips into irrationality faster than normal. Though our public representatives seem inclined to present themselves as being more stupid than nature intended, their capacity to make a hash of things is an embarrassment not only to themselves, but for other Malaysians as well; and in the process Malaysia makes the funny pages in newspaper reports abroad to boot.

We have already witnessed several decades of the political parties of the land trying to out-Islamise each other, claiming the holier-than-thou mantle for themselves. We have also witnessed parties claiming that they were 'more Malay', 'more Chinese' and 'more Indian' than the other; at the cost of maintaining and reproducing the ethnic-cultural cleavages that continue to divide Malaysians. Now it seems that parties are competing to show how 'anti-Israeli' they can be, and we await the expected results as more froth rather than substance will be added to the already overheated political environment.

I was therefore somewhat disappointed (though not much) to read that some opposition MPs intend to table a motion for a bill to end all ties with Israel, whether direct or indirect. According to the report I read, the MPs stated that the law 'should include the banning of use of (Malaysian) ports by any company that has a trade interest with the Zionist regime'. I had to read that sentence several times as my eyeballs have vacated their respective sockets at first glance. (re: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2012/03/26/have-laws-to-ban-all-ties-with-israel/)

To ban the use of Malaysian ports by any company that has a trade interest with Israel?

Pray tell, how many companies or countries do not have trade relations with Israel?

Or trade relations with any country for that matter?

In the context of today's interconnected global economy, are there any countries that do not have direct or indirect trade links with any other countries? Can any country isolate itself from longitudinal linkages that may go in all directions, leading to the unlikeliest of destinations or origins?

Note that my qualm here has nothing to do with Israel per se, and everyone has the right to their opinions of what and how to characterise the Israeli state and its actions towards the Palestinians. I have made my own opinions clear in many forums and discussions in Malaysia and elsewhere. But what concerns me here is the view that Malaysia must, and can only say no, to any kind of dealing no matter how indirect and far-off with other economies.

Practically every major economy that Malaysia trades with - America, Japan, China, India, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, United Kingdom, Germany, France, etc has trade relations with Israel, and some of them dont even bother to hide it. If country X were to buy Malaysian palm oil from Malaysia and then sell it to Israel (while grabbing a commission as go-between) does that count as a direct or indirect relation? And what if Israeli products are sold to Malaysia through another intermediary country (that likewise bags a commision), would that be direct or indirect trade? Do these people understand how economies work, for heavens sake?

My concern - which extends to all Malaysian parties, of both coalitions - is that they seem to have become captives of their own rhetoric and pyrotechnics. Furthermore they seem, in their race to out-do each other, to have painted themselves into a corner. Politics is not about saying No all the time; but rather the art of rendering the seemingly impossible possible. Smart and pragmatic politics is about creating opportunity structures and opportunity windows where the country's interests will be forever served and protected, and not burning bridges when one day one might need them.

So imagine this hypothetical situation, related to the uttermost evil country in the world, Bongonia. In Bongonia they eat babies alive. They flay kittens, exploit children, traffic old people, listen to Celine Dion. No country in human history is as evil as these dastardly Bongonians. But by some quirk of history or geography, Bongonia also produces the rare substance called Nasibrianium. Nasibrianium is such a rare resource that it, and only it, can be used in the latest hi-tech gadgets like thinking massage chairs and self-parking cars. Every country on the planet needs and wants Nasibrianium, and will do anything to get it, including overlooking the human rights abuses that take place in Bongonia. America has even sent Madonna as its special emmissary to wash the feet of the President of Bongonia, to secure contracts for Nasibrianium. China is thinking of selling all their pandas to Bongonia because that is the favourite dish of the Bongonians, just to get their hands on some Nasibrianium.

In such a situation, what will Malaysia do? Stand on its high horse and proclaim 'Never'!, while losing whatever tactical-strategic-technological-economic leverage it might get, no matter how small? Or just say No, but buy the Nasibrianium anyway through third parties who have sold the stuff with commission, and after stamping the 'safe for Malaysian sensibilities' stamp on it? My mind boggles at times, and it is boggling now as we speak. Sigh.

End.

Why have one stream schools

What do you mean by one stream schools?

We now have national schools and vernacular schools, schools that use Mandarin and Tamil as their medium of teaching. We also have Agama schools. However I suggest that we work towards forming only one stream where all our children can learn together. For this to happen, there needs to be a change in our schooling system. We need to come up with a two-session structure perhaps where all students go to school together in the morning session, then learn the vernacular languages and other important skills in the afternoon. This way, Mandarin will not just be limited to the Chinese students, Tamil to the Indian students - our children can learn all major languages – including Arabic.

Why have one stream schools?

Because unity is our most important goal.

As children go through their socialization process, it is crucial that they do it in an environment that is true and representative of the Malaysian society. Beyond what they learn in school lessons, the actual process of socialization, mixing around with others around them, is the most influential learning process our children will go through. We must ensure that they get to know each other from a young age – that they interact with each other, learn to get used to each others languages, practices, smells, quirks, culture… and if they have to quarrel because of differences, it should all be part of the socialization process from when they are young.

Whatever it is, we are a multicultural society – we cannot allow our children to grow up separately. This is one of the greatest recipes for disunity. If children grow up surrounded only by their own race, they will be ill prepared to deal with the reality of Malaysian society. They will become maladjusted people when they enter the workforce.

This is why I suggest that we encourage more multiracial neighbourhoods too so children can grow up together at home. In the same way, we need to work towards one stream schools so that similarly they can grow up together in schools and practice supporting one another as they learn together.

How can we work towards schools that are conducive for our children to study together?

We need to deal with the quality of the school system, the structures and the teachers. Many send their children to Chinese schools not necessarily because of language, but because of quality of education.

When we work towards setting up one stream schools, we need to carefully look into the quality of the school system and the quality of teachers. Maybe we can even learn from the Chinese school system, transfer a bit of technology of how they mould hardworking, effective students.

We need to study how to organize the school system, to allow students to learn history, mathematics, science, languages, arts, drama, sports, culture… all the important aspects of development. And as far as possible it is good if we have teachers from all races. The school environment must be a microcosm of the diversity in Malaysian society for children to go through a healthy socialization process that will prepare them to know, appreciate and love our different cultures.

An Invitation to the 3rd Gathering of Youths for Unity

Peace !

The Gathering of Youths for Unity is happening once more and we’re happy to invite you to be a part of it.
(*In case you missed it, the report from the First Gathering of Youths for Unity can be found here à http://prezi.com/0zsb-pimglpc/gathering-of-youth-for-unity-1-26th-march-2011/; pictures from Gathering of Youths for Unity 1 & 2 can be viewed on our FB at www.facebook.com/zubedyans )

For this 3^rd gathering, the theme is ‘How youths can lead through the middle path’, and we have the wonderful Alvin Teoh (http://letusaddvalue.blogspot.com/2012/02/country-in-my-blood-by-alvin-teoh-loyar.html), Zain HD of RandomAlphabets (www.zainhd.com) and Sharyn Shufiyan (http://about.me/sharynshufiyan) as speakers.

More so, we want to hear from you. Your voice and opinions are invaluable as we collectively discuss how youths can take the lead in the right ways. Do help to spread the word and get as many youths as possible to come along.

When? 31^st March 2012, Saturday

9.15 a.m. (breakfast+registration) – 1.00 p.m.

Where? zubedy (m) sdn. bhd.

3rd floor, Wisma W.I.M.

7, Jalan Abang Haji Openg,

Taman Tun Dr. Ismail,

60000 Kuala Lumpur.

*Attached are further details for your information.

To register, write to aminah@zubedy.com or charis@zubedy.com with your name and organisation. Closing date for registration is 27 March 2012.

YB Fuziah & Tan Keng Liang LYNAS Debate - Chronology of Twitter exchange

Here is the Twitter feed between @Anaszubedy @Fuziah 99 @Tankengliang produced as fully as possible in chronological order

8 March 2012

@Fuziah 99 : What are u rattling abt? We are still discussing on the rules. RT @tankengliang:No point imposing new conditions on daily basis @anaszubedy

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Anyway, I hav been too nice 2 agree most of @fuziah99 request. But her new conditions on daily basis must end.Let's move forward

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy never hav I encounter such fickle minded debater.That's giving @fuziah99 the benefit of doubt she's not finding excuse 2back out

@Tankengliang: @AnasZubedy she want debate lots of other ppl too..ranging from MOSTI Minister,MB Pahang, @tilianker ,Dr Rosli,etc ..not sure PM @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 sorry, it was not her, its me. She wanted to debate CheRosli, tot might as well get into yr team. My bad - apology:)

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy wow....now, she even want to decide who should be in my team & expert for the debate? what else she want? @fuziah99

@Tankengliang: can we get @fuziah99 confirm whether still want debate me on Lynas or back out? No point imposing new conditions on daily basis @anaszubedy

@Fuziah 99 : It will be good if TKL can get dr che rosli. RT @AnasZubedy: @tankengliang YBFuziah's idea 2 include CheRosli in2 d opposing team

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang YBFuziah's idea 2 include CheRosli in2 d opposing team is brilliant 2 depoliticize d debate. Hope TKL can get him :)

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya @tankengliang it is my hope that this debate is abt finding d best solutions instead of politics :)

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya @tankengliang if Dr Che Rosli is in TKL's team, we break d idea of politics of PR-BN completely, but show truth:)

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya @tankengliang since YB interested include Che Rosli,can TKL try 2 get him 2b his expert panel.YB 2 find an equal 1 TQ

@Fuziah 99 : Anjur lah! RT @kerismalaya: yb @fuziah99,xpe la dh @anaszubedy nk organize.. Cuma sy rasa elok yb debate dgn che rosli je..

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Good news, my PA will be uploading tweet chrono on all our tweets on d subject & updating it, this aft onwards :)

@Fuziah 99 : Stop the crap. RT @tankengliang: - @anaszubedy No issue if @fuziah99 want pull out. It's difficult 4 her 2 substantiate her allegation against Lynas in d presence of experts

@Tankengliang: after @fuziah99 accepted the debate with me, her tone started to change when the organizer @anaszubedy said each side must bring an expert

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya @tankengliang YB Fuziah, do u want to pull out of d debate that i am organising? If yes pls be upfront. tQ

@Fuziah 99 : So many nak debate. but not many yg boleh anjur a good one! RT @kerismalaya: yb @fuziah99,xpe la dh @anaszubedy nk organize.. Cuma sy rasa elok yb debate dgn che rosli je..

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang TKL proposed return 2 - 1 debater, 1 expert but follow yr time suggestion - 20 m each. 5 m rebut, 20 in 4 expert-OK?

@Fuziah 99 : @kerismalaya wants me organise for me debate with dr che rosli or TLK. @AnasZubedy do u think you can work together with @kerismalaya?

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang LOL! Fuziah,pls make it easy 4 d debate 2 happen. Stop adding things. It i not perfect, but good enuf 2show truth:)

@Fuziah 99 : Manage time? Susah ckp dgn org tak bnyak kerja ni !!RT @AnasZubedy: we all hv limitations, time included. Let's manage time.. @kerismalaya

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya we all hv limitations, time included. Let's manage time :) Pls revert final call. tQ

@Fuziah 99 : Appreciate if @AnasZubedy value the fact tht not everyone hv all the time in t world @kerismalaya we can work together with another debate.

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang TKL proposed return 2 - 1 debater, 1 expert but follow yr time suggestion - 20 m each. 5 m rebut, 20 in 4 expert-OK?

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya we can work together with another debate. I will need to know him personally - always good 2 hv more kakis :)

@Fuziah 99 : @kerismalaya wants me organise for me debate with dr che rosli or TLK. @AnasZubedy do u think you can work together with @kerismalaya?

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang d 2 of u, pls remember, non-political mid ground rakyat R following this -they r assessing u. Act wisely & kindly :)

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang its 2 on each sides or 1 fr both - any other ways will be seen as arrogance on yr side. So pls decide. tQ

@Fuziah 99 : @tankengliang can have 2 on his side as pro lynas. Divide the time btwen them. Just one anti lynas on my side. @anaszubedy

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 I will not do so unless Fuziah agrees. so its 3 to a team as of now.Remember,by tomorrow all 2 accept limitations tQ

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy suggest remove the 2nd speaker if @fuziah99 need additional time, but expert to remain

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 YBFuziah & Tan Keng Liang is into this becoz they care more abt d rakyat than their egos.

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Note, i will do d minor adjustments later . More important i need an email 2 confirm participation by tomorrow 6pm

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 ok, i will allocate time for rebut. May cut down time 4 speakers to 12 mins - Am good with it tQ

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy @fuziah99 no issue on my side to revert to original debate, as long as there's opportunity for both side to rebut

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 Working within limitations. U will find d format can help both parties state their case in fairness -both face similar limitations

@Fuziah 99 : Dear @AnasZubedy, by turning it into a panel, you're not doing justice to all t work put in so far.. I'll refer names of anti Lynas people

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 i am ok to add another 5 mins each to answer. Fuziah ok?

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy I would suggest if 5 minutes be given to each speaker to answer the opponent's proposition after each turn @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 We hv time limit :) I am sure u r smart enuf to summarise them into a powerful 15 mins presentation. If cant, pls get some1 2 help

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy I will propose names for the panel. I don't think 15 minutes suffice for me to explain 3 & half years of work against Lynas..

@Anaszubedy: @@fuziah99 @tankengliang can revert 2 normal debate of 7-8 mins plus 4 -5 minutes wrap up - pls revert before this evening. d experts remains

@Fuziah 99 : Dear @AnasZubedy: I think you hv got the format of the debate not in the context I had proposed. it's now a panel of speakers. @tankengliang

7 March 2012

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Utk menegakkan kebenaran, M confident that YBFuziah&TKL will be able 2 park their ego aside&debate with maturity:)

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 cool :) I hope u 2 can get really good experts on yr side of d debate :) I will get an environmentalist to assist me

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Thank you. I will revert on the proposal before Friday @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @ameermydin do u know that d @fuziah99 & @tankengliang Lynas debate originated fr yr tweet 2 d 2 of them? :)

@Anaszubedy: Update on @fuziah99 & @tankengliang Lynas debate ; -

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Pls go thru in detail d updates & revert confirmation by friday 6pm.Panellist by wed 12 noon tQ t.co/m7kt2yo6

@Tankengliang: @AnasZubedy I'm ok with that @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 agreed :)

@Tankengliang:@AnasZubedy confirm terms/format/date on Friday. Name of partner + expert next Wednesday @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 I am ok with 7 days fr today. Fuziah?

@Tankengliang:@AnasZubedy I would suggest if both side confirm terms/format/date on Friday. Details of partner + expert within 7 days @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 I will update debate format latest by tomorrow a.m. Pls read carefully&follow thru details strictly. Peace, tQ

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 she suggested 3 panellist each. Including 1 subject expert. Both sides will need to follow. Will firm up format. tQ

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Pls get @fuziah99 to confirm the format. Does she want a partner? Will let her decide

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 @drdzul up 2 Fuziah. She knows what she is doing. I am looking 4ward 2 find out who R d experts from each side :)

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Both sides must have equal number of ppl. So, @fuziah99 shud also get a partner eg @drdzul + 1 expert. Is that ok?

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Fuziah CONFIRMED earlier. Both sides can prepare. 1 + 1 expert. TKL, many request TLK, up2u. All d best !!!

@Tankengliang: kalau @fuziah99 nak tarik diri dari debat dgn saya yg sebelum ini dipersetujui, harap terus terang. Jgn perhabis masa org lain @anaszubedy

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 astro awani 501 interested in our debate, did a promo recording earlier. Kini Trending (abt tweets) today 815-30 tQ

@Anaszubedy: @wansaiful @tankengliang @fuziah99 Wan, i would like 2 learn fr u, how can u make this debate a success? I will support IDEAS if u r serious

@Anaszubedy: @wansaiful @tankengliang @fuziah99 Perhaps we both can throw in talent , time & $. I M willing 2 invest. If ok, i will get my PA 2 contact u

@Anaszubedy: @wansaiful @tankengliang @fuziah99 Perhaps we both can throw in talent , time & $. I M willing 2 invest. If ok, i will get my PA 2 contact u

@Tankengliang: suggest @fuziah99 make up her mind. Why shift goal post on daily basis? @anaszubedy

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy did I say I'm pulling out? I said TKL shud make way for someone senior!! @aminiskandar @tankengliang @wansaiful @tilianker

@Anaszubedy: @aminiskandar @fuziah99 @tankengliang @wansaiful if fuziah pull out of debating TKL, i will try 2 organize with @tilianker - since she is ok

@Anaszubedy:@fuziah99 sis, u got to make up ur mind. U can back out if u want. It's ur call @anaszubedy @wansaiful

@Fuziah 99 : If @AnasZubedy still insist on@tankengliang. Any takers to organize debate with someone more senior @wansaiful? Don't cancel this one lagi.

@Anaszubedy: @dr_joycelee @tankengliang @fuziah99 Joyce, tx 4 yr feedback. i hope fuziah invite u 2b part of her 30 team mates. Love to hear yr POA, tQ

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Unless u want to pull out,no more jostling fr now on, tQ. Format remains 3 panellist each. details will b updated

@Fuziah 99 : @tankengliang we're still in the process of giving feedback on the rules? @anaszubedy

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 sis, no issue if u want pull out. I only accepted invitation from @anaszubedy Pls make up mind. Your call

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Final call. If either of u donot furnish d name of team by fri 6 pm, including an expert - meaning u pull out, tQ

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 To me on general, any rules that's fair to both + presence of 1 expert to speak if fine with me @anaszubedy

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @wansaiful Fuziah, u need 2 decide, u ok with earlier agreement or u want 2 pull out? Yr idea of 3 panelist is good .pls decide.TQ

@Fuziah 99 : If @AnasZubedy still insist on@tankengliang. Any takers to organize debate with someone more senior @wansaiful? Don't cancel this one lagi.

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @Flatfishism @wansaiful @tankengliang TKL can form his own team, U yrs. Respect each other, pls. Revert by friday 6 pm, tq, salam

@Fuziah 99 : Get a more cnfident pro lynas to debate! RT @AnasZubedy: @Flatfishism @wansaiful @fuziah99 @tankengliang Fuziah/TKL r u game in allowing yr experts debate 4 u?

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @wansaiful @tankengliang @tilianker I have conscience. Both of u R d original 2 who agreed. Any other way now is beyond my ethics

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang @tilianker TKL & TLK, i leave it 2u2. Fuziah, who is yr partner. Also TKL & Fuziah, name of expert by friday please

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy:Appreciate if u can finalise the pro lynas debater & date of the debate @wansaiful has got a point @tankengliang @tilianker

@Anaszubedy: @AnasZubedy why are u so adamant to have TKL? Organise a Good Debate! That's your challenge! @wansaiful @tankengliang @tilianker

@Fuziah 99 : @fuziah99 @wansaiful @tankengliang @tilianker I have conscience. Both of u R d original 2 who agreed. Any other way now is beyond my ethics

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang pick 1 u feel can assist u best. TKL will have d same problem. Yr expert can gather fr all d others, so must TKL's

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy my experts are from various subspecialities in public health, environmental engineers, chemical engineers, etc. @tankengliang

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Request for 3 panelist each by fuziah. Am considering. Will revert with final format within 2 days. Peace, TQ

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy I said panggil tilianker sekali! Sbb. I xnak debat bnyak kali. Unless @tankengliang makes way for tilianker. Then back to 2.

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Do all yr thinking, planning. But be sure to provide names 4 yr team + experts by friday 6 pm. Have a good day, tQ

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Fuziah,d expert's presentation will interest d middle ground - d format is helpful in making debate stronger tQ

@Anaszubedy: @jasonbhlee @fuziah99 @tankengliang YB, is jason 1 of yr team member?i will need d names/IC of d 30 who R coming with u 4 permission 2 enter

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy my experts are from various subspecialities in public health, environmental engineers, chemical engineers, etc. @tankengliang

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Request for 3 panelist each by fuziah. Am considering. Will revert with final format within 2 days. Peace, TQ

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @jasonbhlee @tankengliang I dont play God & claim 2know what is in yr hearts, nor do i know u 2 personally. D debate will tell tQ

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy: @jasonbhlee has got a point. If you can get me tilianker, better. He also has dared me to debate! @tankengliang

5 March 2012

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang goodnite, tQ 4 caring 4 Malaysia in yr own ways. All d best in forming yr team. Looking forward 2 work with u 2 :)

@Fuziah 99 : Yes. Do it LIVE!! RT @mrzebbo: @AnasZubedy @tankengliang can we make this debate live on the net? I volunteer to arrange whatever necessary

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @mrzebbo @tankengliang pls read the entire blog entry. It will be streamed, videoed, uploaded, debate will be written verbatim too

@Anaszubedy: @mrzebbo @fuziah99 @tankengliang yes, it will be live - it will be streamed :)

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Fuziah,d expert's presentation will interest d middle ground - d format is helpful in making debate stronger tQ

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy the experts should be present as resource person during Q&A session. The debate is between myself and @tankengliang

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang will look into dates and revert tomorrow . Pls decide your expert panellist and revert by friday. tQ and Peace

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy do it in March. Parliament starts 12th March. Any mondays to thurdays March before the end of March. @tankengliang

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang D debaters will find ways to put all key points in 20 mins. D Experts another 20 mins each. TQ

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy I have factual slide presentation. Even 20 minutes is not enough actually. @tankengliang

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang TKL, agree?

@Fuziah 99 : 20 minutes each side. RT @AnasZubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang pls propose, tQ

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang pls propose, tQ

@Fuziah 99 : The time given to each side is too short. RT @AnasZubedy: The YB Fuziah - @tankengliang Lynas debate proposal format

@Tankengliang: Ok RT @AnasZubedy @fuziah99 TKL/Fuziah -can we stop d tweets on this 4 awhile until debate proper. I M sure both sides will give their best

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 TKL/Fuziah -can we stop d tweets on this 4 awhile until d debate proper. I M sure both sides will give their best :)

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 The YB Fuziah - Tan Keng Liang Lynas debate proposal format - pls feedback asap tQ

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 also hope u will come out with facs & scientific evidence from qualified experts. Neither do I want to waste my time @AnasZubedy

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 I will write a quik overview/rules/approach post it at my blog - send comments 2 my email. We can make it good :)tQ

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 sis, u decide.... I accept because @AnasZubedy invited me. I don't run away. What about you?

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Great, I will work on it , thank you people :)

@Fuziah 99 : @AnasZubedy: did I ever say otherwise? I have been very consistent. Quiet sbb bnyak kerja. Not full time kacau org mcm our @tankengliang

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang Dear Fuziah & TKL - It will be good to stop accusing each other & get 2 d crux of d issue - Yes or No to a debate tQ

@Fuziah 99 : Cukup lah tipu tu!RT@tankengliang: @AnasZubedy I have no issue. Q is @fuziah99 Advise to get her to confirm..may pull out. Biasalah for them

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Are u 2 really serious abt d debate. If yes, I will get my team 2 start d leg work.Fuziah, pls confirm TQ

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Let's wait for @fuziah99 She need to confirm first ....never know what excuse she may give again

3 March 2012

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 will do - fuziah, pls foreward me yr email add. Can both of u also decide on yr expert support -1 person only pls TQ

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy pls give me dates after @fuziah99 confirm. Will make arrangement to KL

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 TKL and Fuziah, let's make it easy 4 thi to happen, put aside all d macho comments till then :) thanks

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy ok. Noted. Tq @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @hafidzbaharom @fuziah99 @jasonbhlee @tankengliang @tilianker i would like 2 detach lynas fr politics - just the truth &facts fr both sides

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 I have received email fr TKL, Fuziah, will be glad to have yours too. I will get back by mon or tuesday with format

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy I'm agreeable in KL. Sorry can't email as I don't have access to my email now. I have DM my email a/c @fuziah99

@Anaszubedy: @hafidzbaharom @fuziah99 @jasonbhlee @tankengliang @tilianker keep politics out, it can be anywhere. Truth has no geographical boundaries:)

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 I have yet to receive an email fr either of u. Pls send email agreeing 4 the debate , thanks

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 Kuala Lumpur. It's easier. Let's move forward @anaszubedy

@Fuziah 99 : TLK mmg takut debat di Ktn. RT @tankengliang: @tilianker agree debate with @fuziah99 should be in KL @philipgolingai @anaszubedy

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang it will be good to listen to experts too - for & against lynas - or at least as a panellist 4 question time.

@Fuziah 99 : Siapa yg nak debate? The expert ke?RT @AnasZubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Fuziah, u did say u r willing to debate with any1 fr other side. I suggest each side shud also have 1 expert speaker

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang cool fuziah, i look forward :)

@Fuziah 99 : Why you need to cover TLK? Takut ke dia? RT @tankengliang: @anaszubedy There u see bro....not that I don't want debate @fuziah99

@Fuziah 99 : No worries bro. RT @AnasZubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Fuziah, u did say u r willing to debate with any1 fr other side. I suggest each side shud also have 1 expert speaker

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Fuziah, u did say u r willing to debate with any1 fr other side. I suggest each side shud also have 1 expert speaker

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 write an agreement email, i will write a balanced proposal. 2 or fr each side- must have expert point of view 2 tQ

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy she @fuziah99 now want a Minister from MOSTI ....she need to make up her mind

@Fuziah 99 : Arrange debate with Menteri MOSTI la. RT @AnasZubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 i am waitig for both emails and will organize come monday :)

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 yes, if i am moderating i will cut short any politics fr any sides. Only facts & data will be allowed.

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy if only @fuziah99 can understand that. Look into the issue & politics aside

@Anaszubedy: @tilianker @PhilipGolingai @tankengliang @fuziah99 i have yet receive yr email. Pls email me at anas@zubedy.com . Ti versus Fuziah is it?

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 let's cut out d politics & small issues like venue, we deal with tots, facts & truth - anywhere neutral is good:)

@Fuziah 99 : TLK berani cakap blakng saja. RT @jasonbhlee: I always think tilianker shd debate x a worthless goon fm Gerakan. @tankengliang @anaszubedy

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 not covering for @tilianker. thought he was too hot for u too handle....so, @anaszubedy offering me as easy meat for u :)

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy There u see bro....not that I don't want debate @fuziah99

@Fuziah 99 : TLK mmg takut debat di Ktn. RT @tankengliang: @tilianker agree debate with @fuziah99 should be in KL @philipgolingai @anaszubedy

@Fuziah 99 : Tak nak buat di Kuantan? Takut? RT @tankengliang: @fuziah99 I always speak on facts & rely scientific evidence from qualified expert. Will u do the same? if yes, then see u in KL @anaszubedy

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Bro, u can now understand why debates with @fuziah99 on Lynas won't happen

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy I have DM my email to u. But pls check with @fuziah99 She has been silent

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 i am waitig for both emails and will organize come monday :)

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy did @fuziah99 say ok?

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 Pls email me your contact info 2 arrange dates & details. TKL, pls decide who is yr rep anas@zubedy.com

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy No issue if u organize.....but advise to consult @fuziah99 Never what she may end up saying. Thanks

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 TKL and Fuziah, this is great. TJL, who is representing your side? Do u guys want me to organize?

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang @ameermydin TKL is suggesting that you say u r willing to debate but fizzles out when they agree

@Fuziah 99 : I hv always agreed. Just get somebdy to orgnse. RT @Nantha77: "@AnasZubedy: @fuziah99 @tankengliang @ameermydin ...

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy Pls get @fuziah99 to confirm, if that's what she wants

@Fuziah 99 : Enlighten what, bro? RT @AnasZubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 @ameermydin fuziah, can u enlighten me here , thanks

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang @fuziah99 @ameermydin fuziah, can u enlighten me here , thanks

@Tankengliang: @anaszubedy to b fair @fuziah99 she previously agreed debate but nothing happen. Agreeing 2 debate & actually debating r 2 different thing

@Tankengliang: @AnasZubedy She @fuziah99 wants to debate? i heard that many times but end up nothing.... @ameermydin

@Anaszubedy: @ameermydin @tankengliang fuziah tweeted me saying he is willing to debate with anyone …

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 Expert evidence from nuclear science expert given as certain irresponsible Pakatan ppl alleged as if Lynas = nuclear plant

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 wow....so many experts....but did any of them say Lynas dangerous to human if managed properly? Pls enlighten, if it's true

@Fuziah 99 : @tankengliang Why does Lynas only put frwrd nuclear physicist? Why don't consult epidiomologist? Toxicologist? Chemical Process Engrs? Environmental Engrs? Geologist? HIA experts? Don't you want to know why ?? @DrDzul

@Fuziah 99 : I've been advised not to entertain u bro. Too bad lah. U wasted your time untuk kacau saja!! RT @tankengliang: adakah Pakatan akan mengkritik #Lynas kalau pelaburan oleh syarikat asing tersebut dibawa masuk ke negara oleh Pakatan? @fuziah99 @drdzul

@Fuziah 99 : And if you don't understnd what multi faceted means, go and study first. Then only we talk. RT @tankengliang: @fuziah99 sis,if u willing accept scientific evidence from qualified experts,ur perception on Lynas may differ from Pakatan. See Dr Rosli

@Fuziah 99 : I told you many times that it's a multi faceted issue. But you fail to understnd or refuse to understnd! RT @tankengliang: @fuziah99 sis,if u willing accept scientific evidence from qualified experts,ur perception on Lynas may differ from Pakatan. See Dr Rosli

@Tankengliang: @fuziah99 sis,if u willing accept scientific evidence from qualified experts,ur perception on Lynas may differ from Pakatan. See Dr Rosli

@Fuziah 99 : Ngan MB lah. :-) RT @Keris7Lok: Ngan @tilianker bleh yb? Kalau bran lah.. RT @fuziah99: Saya dah ajak jugak..RT @kerismalaya: apsal nk gaduh ... http://t.co/SUh90t5i

25 February 2012

@Fuziah 99 : Saya dah ajak jugak..RT @kerismalaya: apsal nk gaduh pasal lynas,kita ajak yb @fuziah99 debat dgn mp hulu langat.. Pr vs PR OK x @keris7lok @izizree

@Anaszubedy: @tankengliang bro, its not pakatan, its PKR & DAP, pls be specific. PAS is not 4 it. Its fuziah's plan to retain her seat probably :)

@Tankengliang: from #lynas issue, we can see how Pakatan refuse to produce scientific evidence from qualified expert to back their allegation #politics

@Anaszubedy: @fuziah99 @kerismalaya Fuziah, that's cool. Will u debate with d title i suggested?

@Fuziah 99 : Dah lama saya ajak debat. RT @kerismalaya: @AnasZubedy hmm.. Setuju.. Tp apa kata kita penuhi keinginan PR yg suka berdebat ni dgn ajak yb @fuziah99 brdebat pasal lynas

@Anaszubedy: @kerismalaya @fuziah99 Boleh, tajuk debat mesti " Mana mesti di utamakan, anti-rokok/alkohol/judi atau anti lynas :)

@Anaszubedy @Fuziah 99 @Tankengliang: